Like a few others mentioned in their comments, I've always felt that pro wrestling, or pro "style" wrestling, is co-operative, not competitive. There are different attitudes when it comes to the application of holds and other moves, and the amount of pressure applied. Skill level and knowledge of how to execute and sell even simple moves and holds is paramount to the look and feel of a match. Plus, the progression of a match and how it should look isn't necessarily an easy thing for some guys to get and understand. For example, if one wrestler is getting beat pretty good, then he suddenly comes back out of nowhere to turn the tables as if he hasn't suffered any punishment at all, that defies logic and takes credibility out of the match. That is where you have to understand how pro wrestling works, and what someone watching would be thinking.
I've wrestled lots of great guys, all with various levels of skill and ability. I loved every match for various reasons. And, I've wrestled a pro wrestler friend numerous times, and he makes it appear that he is beating the crap out of me, when in reality he is hardly touching me. He was selling the delivery of the punishment, and I had to sell the receiving of the punishment. His skill and knowledge and training made it look real, and he makes it look easy. But he trains constantly, and knows the sport inside and out. Most guys that participate in pro style aren't of that skill and knowledge level, and that is to be expected, as most do this for fun.
But it really comes down to what you expect when you watch a match, and what you want if you are taping matches and showing them online. Every match I taped and posted online, I didn't do it for anyone else. I did it for me. If other people like what I post, great. If they don't like it, that's great too. Everyone has different ideas and limitations and likes, and I feel you have to watch what interests you. If you don't like something, you have the choice of watching something else. I'm not into criticizing others for what they like and what they post. If it doesn't appeal to me, I just move on and find something I like. Live and let live.
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But I suppose it makes the point. If the moderators think that a seated senton shown on your page is "hateful," then you're probably doing ok as far as pro wrestling is concerned.
In this corner of the industry—where we’re doing private sessions and specialized video productions—the definition of "pro" is actually even more demanding. When you’re filming for a lens or working a private mat, there is no "cheap seat" in the back to hide behind. The camera sees every inch of contact, and the client feels every ounce of pressure. You’re absolutely right that "gently wiping faces" isn't wrestling; it’s an insult to the craft. If I’m in a session and I’m not delivering those "Oh shit!" moments, I haven't done my job. In these intimate settings, the impact has to be undeniable because the sound of skin hitting skin or the sight of a body being driven into the mat is what the viewer is paying to witness.
In my world, "pro style" means the line between what is performed and what is felt is razor-thin. When I’m working with a jobber or a partner in a private production, I’m looking to deliver right up to the edge of their endurance. If the spectator isn’t shocked by the level of punishment being handed out, then the session has failed. It’s that Japanese influence again—the idea that the struggle must be visceral. We aren't just "prancing around"; we are showcasing a physical dominance that looks, sounds, and feels terrifyingly real. If it doesn't make someone wince or catch their breath, it isn't pro.
But even in a private room or a closed set, my presence and my gear are what transform me from a man into a professional. I don’t just show up; I arrive. When I pull on my spandex trunks, tighten my boots, and slide on my mask, I am signaling that the reality is about to change. The gear creates the persona and provides the visual weight that makes the "Oh shit!" moments land harder. A masked wrestler in traditional trunks and pads carries a specific gravity; it tells the audience that this is a curated, high-stakes encounter. Without the professional look, the violence lacks context. You need both—the elite gear to command the room and the "snug" delivery to prove you’re the real deal. Anything less is just a hollow imitation of what we do.
Been at this a long time and was a turn on since a kid to buy the the old mags and couldn't wait until Saturday to watch pro wrestling. I always say, you can teach anybody to wrestle but not everyone can do pro. From the gear to the ring attitude and shedding your everyday self to climb through the ropes or onto a mat and getting into your pro wrestler persona isn't easy for some. For lot's of newbies, I'd always ask, if you've always watched pro rasslin growing up then it's in you! Some get it, some don't. I prefer to have real pressure to the holds unlike sub or mma, intermittent pressure while applying holds is what I prefer. I can go light to rough but all must be discussed before a meet. Some like all fantasy and play wrestling and that's good too but communication is a must to make it work. My hubby and I used to own a ring in So. Cal. but sold it to a good buddy who thankfully has kept it in it's same location.
Seems like the OP has a pretty narrow definition of what "pro-style" means, especially as it relates to this site and the real-world people on here who are not trained professional wrestlers.
To me, and in the context of this site, pro-style has more to do with the cooperative/selling nature of the match, vs. actual competition. Many pro-style holds and moves are impossible without cooperation between the two wrestlers. It doesn't necessarily mean that once a hold is clamped on, there can't be real pressure applied and a real submission earned. Same with slaps, etc. There's a reason that "pro" and "stiff pro" are differentiated.
The ring, the gear, the pageantry, etc. are trappings that I know a lot of guys on here are into, but to my mind, it is the "put on a show"/cooperative nature of pro that sets it apart from competitive matches.
For me, pro style is the gear working different holds with some pressure, depending on your opponent. A good choreographed match with back forth holds is a turn on for me. You can incorporate erotic moves during the match. Like, an abdominal stretch, get it locked in and work the cock!
Commandertc: I've faced you with wrestleboy10. And it was super rough. Exactly what it should be in a pro match. The only problem with our pro match was that it wasn't recorded. Next time!
I feel there is a lot of disagreement on what is pro style wrestling. A lot of people say it's as long as the opponents are wearing "pro style" gear and prancing around in a ring. And that may be true. But there's a lot of "pro style" in a ring where they're gently wiping each other's faces. What is that? "Oh, that's supposed to be a slap." Well, I just don't think that if you're in a ring "gently wiping faces as if to slap" is pro style. I see a lot of Japanese pro. And that pro happens IN a ring. OUTSIDE a ring. in MAT ROOMS with an audience. I think that wherever it occurs, the main criteria for pro is that the audience looks at the moves and thinks..."OH SHIT!!!! Did that really happen?" The moves should be rougher than anyone thinks is real. People can't believe that really happened. The jobbers should be taking insane punishment . The heels should be delivering right up to what they think the jobbers can take. And the spectators should be shocked. Wherever it happens. Am I wrong? Is there a world where pro just means obvious non-delivered rough moves? Sorry. I don't think that compares to what pro style actually is. Wherever it happens. I think if you're not delivering or receiving "oh shit" moments. It's not pro.
commandertc (89)
12 days agoThis is awesome conversation about a style we all love to see and some participation is required.
MickeyProWrestler (3)
13 days agoLike a few others mentioned in their comments, I've always felt that pro wrestling, or pro "style" wrestling, is co-operative, not competitive. There are different attitudes when it comes to the application of holds and other moves, and the amount of pressure applied. Skill level and knowledge of how to execute and sell even simple moves and holds is paramount to the look and feel of a match. Plus, the progression of a match and how it should look isn't necessarily an easy thing for some guys to get and understand. For example, if one wrestler is getting beat pretty good, then he suddenly comes back out of nowhere to turn the tables as if he hasn't suffered any punishment at all, that defies logic and takes credibility out of the match. That is where you have to understand how pro wrestling works, and what someone watching would be thinking.
I've wrestled lots of great guys, all with various levels of skill and ability. I loved every match for various reasons. And, I've wrestled a pro wrestler friend numerous times, and he makes it appear that he is beating the crap out of me, when in reality he is hardly touching me. He was selling the delivery of the punishment, and I had to sell the receiving of the punishment. His skill and knowledge and training made it look real, and he makes it look easy. But he trains constantly, and knows the sport inside and out. Most guys that participate in pro style aren't of that skill and knowledge level, and that is to be expected, as most do this for fun.
But it really comes down to what you expect when you watch a match, and what you want if you are taping matches and showing them online. Every match I taped and posted online, I didn't do it for anyone else. I did it for me. If other people like what I post, great. If they don't like it, that's great too. Everyone has different ideas and limitations and likes, and I feel you have to watch what interests you. If you don't like something, you have the choice of watching something else. I'm not into criticizing others for what they like and what they post. If it doesn't appeal to me, I just move on and find something I like. Live and let live. Please log in to view gallery photos.
wrestlin (92 )
15 days agoBut I suppose it makes the point. If the moderators think that a seated senton shown on your page is "hateful," then you're probably doing ok as far as pro wrestling is concerned.
wrestlin (92 )
15 days agoAccording to X, a seated senton is HATEFUL. I've been blocked of X for a picture of Wrestlej landing a seated senton on me in a match.
wrestlin (92 )
15 days ago(In reply to this)
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bigt730 (12 )
19 days agoIn this corner of the industry—where we’re doing private sessions and specialized video productions—the definition of "pro" is actually even more demanding. When you’re filming for a lens or working a private mat, there is no "cheap seat" in the back to hide behind. The camera sees every inch of contact, and the client feels every ounce of pressure. You’re absolutely right that "gently wiping faces" isn't wrestling; it’s an insult to the craft. If I’m in a session and I’m not delivering those "Oh shit!" moments, I haven't done my job. In these intimate settings, the impact has to be undeniable because the sound of skin hitting skin or the sight of a body being driven into the mat is what the viewer is paying to witness.
In my world, "pro style" means the line between what is performed and what is felt is razor-thin. When I’m working with a jobber or a partner in a private production, I’m looking to deliver right up to the edge of their endurance. If the spectator isn’t shocked by the level of punishment being handed out, then the session has failed. It’s that Japanese influence again—the idea that the struggle must be visceral. We aren't just "prancing around"; we are showcasing a physical dominance that looks, sounds, and feels terrifyingly real. If it doesn't make someone wince or catch their breath, it isn't pro.
But even in a private room or a closed set, my presence and my gear are what transform me from a man into a professional. I don’t just show up; I arrive. When I pull on my spandex trunks, tighten my boots, and slide on my mask, I am signaling that the reality is about to change. The gear creates the persona and provides the visual weight that makes the "Oh shit!" moments land harder. A masked wrestler in traditional trunks and pads carries a specific gravity; it tells the audience that this is a curated, high-stakes encounter. Without the professional look, the violence lacks context. You need both—the elite gear to command the room and the "snug" delivery to prove you’re the real deal. Anything less is just a hollow imitation of what we do.
wrestlin (92 )
15 days ago(In reply to this)
BIGT730: Exactly. the point I'm making
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Barriobruiser (78)
25 days agoBeen at this a long time and was a turn on since a kid to buy the the old mags and couldn't wait until Saturday to watch pro wrestling. I always say, you can teach anybody to wrestle but not everyone can do pro. From the gear to the ring attitude and shedding your everyday self to climb through the ropes or onto a mat and getting into your pro wrestler persona isn't easy for some. For lot's of newbies, I'd always ask, if you've always watched pro rasslin growing up then it's in you! Some get it, some don't. I prefer to have real pressure to the holds unlike sub or mma, intermittent pressure while applying holds is what I prefer. I can go light to rough but all must be discussed before a meet. Some like all fantasy and play wrestling and that's good too but communication is a must to make it work. My hubby and I used to own a ring in So. Cal. but sold it to a good buddy who thankfully has kept it in it's same location.
funkpro (0)
20 days ago(In reply to this)
60s 70s pro guys were the real deal started watching sat afternoon wrestling at a young age an was totally hooked
grappling hooked (30)
25 days agoSeems like the OP has a pretty narrow definition of what "pro-style" means, especially as it relates to this site and the real-world people on here who are not trained professional wrestlers.
To me, and in the context of this site, pro-style has more to do with the cooperative/selling nature of the match, vs. actual competition. Many pro-style holds and moves are impossible without cooperation between the two wrestlers. It doesn't necessarily mean that once a hold is clamped on, there can't be real pressure applied and a real submission earned. Same with slaps, etc. There's a reason that "pro" and "stiff pro" are differentiated.
The ring, the gear, the pageantry, etc. are trappings that I know a lot of guys on here are into, but to my mind, it is the "put on a show"/cooperative nature of pro that sets it apart from competitive matches.
Profan58 (3)
25 days agoFor me, pro style is the gear working different holds with some pressure, depending on your opponent. A good choreographed match with back forth holds is a turn on for me. You can incorporate erotic moves during the match. Like, an abdominal stretch, get it locked in and work the cock!
funkpro (0)
20 days ago(In reply to this)
My favorite style
Blaq Masq (3 )
26 days agoI can agree.
- Gear
- Audience
- Stage Names
- Convincing Moves, Signature Moves
- Winner/Loser
Details that require thought and action. Not necessarily arousal.
commandertc (89)
25 days ago(In reply to this)
I agree but you refuse to show.up and wrestle stud when given the opportunity lol
wrestlin (92 )
15 days ago(In reply to this)
Commandertc: I've faced you with wrestleboy10. And it was super rough. Exactly what it should be in a pro match. The only problem with our pro match was that it wasn't recorded. Next time!
wrestlin (92 )
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wrestlin (92 )
26 days agohttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1XaJNrm_lP_-lJrnsAwMlCeoa-QxARlSG/view?usp=sharing
wrestlin (92 )
27 days agoI feel there is a lot of disagreement on what is pro style wrestling. A lot of people say it's as long as the opponents are wearing "pro style" gear and prancing around in a ring. And that may be true. But there's a lot of "pro style" in a ring where they're gently wiping each other's faces. What is that? "Oh, that's supposed to be a slap." Well, I just don't think that if you're in a ring "gently wiping faces as if to slap" is pro style. I see a lot of Japanese pro. And that pro happens IN a ring. OUTSIDE a ring. in MAT ROOMS with an audience. I think that wherever it occurs, the main criteria for pro is that the audience looks at the moves and thinks..."OH SHIT!!!! Did that really happen?" The moves should be rougher than anyone thinks is real. People can't believe that really happened. The jobbers should be taking insane punishment . The heels should be delivering right up to what they think the jobbers can take. And the spectators should be shocked. Wherever it happens. Am I wrong? Is there a world where pro just means obvious non-delivered rough moves? Sorry. I don't think that compares to what pro style actually is. Wherever it happens. I think if you're not delivering or receiving "oh shit" moments. It's not pro.